Recommendations amp good recording tone direct
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				Keenan Friday
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Recommendations amp good recording tone direct
Does anyone have any recommendations for an amp with a good recording tone going direct as opposed to micd. Im currently using peavey session 500. I have used most other peavey steel amps for recording as well as walker stereo steel. I havent tried any of the tube preamps. Im amazed by the recorded paul franklin tone on the band in a box realtracks.
			
			
									
						
							Keenan Friday
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				mtulbert
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I use a Sarno Revelation Preamp direct into my board and love the sound that I get.  
Here is a youtube link of a live gig we did a few years ago.
Revelation direct into the recording board.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5wYeUGZlZg
regards,
			
			
									
						
							Here is a youtube link of a live gig we did a few years ago.
Revelation direct into the recording board.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5wYeUGZlZg
regards,
Mark T
 
Infinity D-10 MSA Legend XL Revelation Octal Preamp, Kemper Rack, Kemper Profiler Player Fender FR-12
			
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				Jim Fogle
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Paul Franklin & Vince Gill Recording Setup
Here is a link to a YouTube video where Paul Franklin and Vince Gill talk about the setups they used to record an album together a few years ago.  https://youtu.be/phDJy_IiR1Y
			
			
									
						
							Harold Fogle (1945-1999) Pedal Steel Player
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				John Macy
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				Dale Rottacker
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I agree with Mark... I used one for a couple years and really liked it.... You might also try a Telonic’s amp... I went DI with that for a while too and it’s very good, as was the Quilter Rackmount I had... That said, I’m back to using a mic... went with the Sennhieser MD 421ii which to my ear is exceptional. All things worth trying I think, but your ears will be your guide.mtulbert wrote:I use a Sarno Revelation Preamp direct into my board and love the sound that I get.
Here is a youtube link of a live gig we did a few years ago.
Revelation direct into the recording board.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5wYeUGZlZg
regards,
Dale Rottacker, Steelinatune™ 
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				Ian Rae
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				Larry Dering
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Might be a bit confusing on the presets, but I use a Fender Mustang 111 v2 that handles the line out with spades. Very clean and clear with what I feel is an accurate representation of the amp. Naturally I have tweaked the settings on a 65 Twin Reverb model to my taste. Cheap amp with serious good tones.
			
			
									
						
										
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				Les Cargill
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Since all you are actually going to use is the preamp, why not just get a preamp? I don't play steel much any more, so....  but the things I mention all work with steel, too. 
I have an Atomic Ampli-FireBox. It will do a workman's job on a Deluxe, a Twin, a Marshall Plexi , a JCM800, a "Rumble" ( their pun on a name starting with D ). It will not replace these amps, but it'll get pretty close. The twin isn't that good, really...
The bad news is that you will need to change the default presets using a program connected via USB.
A few months after I bought this, variations on the Line6 Helix came out. New ones pop up all the time.
I even use it live. I still have the Steelaire, and it works swimmingly with amp sims. I also still have a Blues Deluxe and they work with it, too.
There are the Tech 21 "Character" pedals, which have also inspired the JOYO company to build "ripoffs" of them. I have a JOYO American Sound and have used it extensively live and in recordings.
			
			
									
						
										
						I have an Atomic Ampli-FireBox. It will do a workman's job on a Deluxe, a Twin, a Marshall Plexi , a JCM800, a "Rumble" ( their pun on a name starting with D ). It will not replace these amps, but it'll get pretty close. The twin isn't that good, really...
The bad news is that you will need to change the default presets using a program connected via USB.
A few months after I bought this, variations on the Line6 Helix came out. New ones pop up all the time.
I even use it live. I still have the Steelaire, and it works swimmingly with amp sims. I also still have a Blues Deluxe and they work with it, too.
There are the Tech 21 "Character" pedals, which have also inspired the JOYO company to build "ripoffs" of them. I have a JOYO American Sound and have used it extensively live and in recordings.
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				David Mitchell
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Older post I know but more times than not recording steel players show up at the studio with a small rack with just a preamp and effects unit. If they have powered amplification they leave it in the car. It's their sound and I just fold it back to them either in headphones or through speakers depending on whether live mics are being used at the same time.