Translating current Williams tech specs/manual to a 400 model
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Nate Biehl
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Translating current Williams tech specs/manual to a 400 model
Any advice for translating the current rodding chart on the Williams website to a D10 400? The new bellcranks have a few more slots than the ones on my guitar.
As I'm sure most have, I tried to improve one thing and some other things got worse, and I'd like to work my way back to baseline. I know the answer is always "Call Bill Rudolph" but it always seems to be evening or a weekend when I foul up, and then I get too busy to call the shop until it is once again evening or a weekend.
As I'm sure most have, I tried to improve one thing and some other things got worse, and I'd like to work my way back to baseline. I know the answer is always "Call Bill Rudolph" but it always seems to be evening or a weekend when I foul up, and then I get too busy to call the shop until it is once again evening or a weekend.
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K Maul
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Re: Translating current Williams tech specs/manual to a 400 model
Email Bill Rudolph.
Seriously-I think that would be the thing to do.
Seriously-I think that would be the thing to do.
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Tucker Jackson
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Re: Translating current Williams tech specs/manual to a 400 model
I've got a Williams owner's manual dated 1999. It references the 300 and 400 series within the text... but there's no rodding chart. If you still want it, please send me a private message with your email address and I'll email you a copy as an attachement.
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Jerry Overstreet
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Re: Translating current Williams tech specs/manual to a 400 model
I realize you are looking for specific Williams charts, but very many all pull guitars are very much the same geometrically.
IIRC, the 400 Willy I had were 5 slot bellcranks so this chart should be very much the same except for your lower changer fingers which are triple lower. This should get you back close to factory setup.
https://steelguitar.com/rodding.html
IIRC, the 400 Willy I had were 5 slot bellcranks so this chart should be very much the same except for your lower changer fingers which are triple lower. This should get you back close to factory setup.
https://steelguitar.com/rodding.html
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Nate Biehl
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Re: Translating current Williams tech specs/manual to a 400 model
I sent you a PM! thanks very much!Tucker Jackson wrote: 30 Sep 2025 2:40 pm I've got a Williams owner's manual dated 1999. It references the 300 and 400 series within the text... but there's no rodding chart. If you still want it, please send me a private message with your email address and I'll email you a copy as an attachement.
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Nate Biehl
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Re: Translating current Williams tech specs/manual to a 400 model
Of course!K Maul wrote: 30 Sep 2025 2:37 pm Email Bill Rudolph.
Seriously-I think that would be the thing to do.
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Nate Biehl
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Re: Translating current Williams tech specs/manual to a 400 model
Thanks Jerry! I will check this out!Jerry Overstreet wrote: 30 Sep 2025 3:33 pm I realize you are looking for specific Williams charts, but very many all pull guitars are very much the same geometrically.
IIRC, the 400 Willy I had were 5 slot bellcranks so this chart should be very much the same except for your lower changer fingers which are triple lower. This should get you back close to factory setup.
https://steelguitar.com/rodding.html
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Tucker Jackson
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Re: Translating current Williams tech specs/manual to a 400 model
Minor note: The Carter rodding chart Jerry posted a link to uses Carter's own numbering system for the changer holes. I think most other steel manufacturers use a different numbering scheme.
William's chart on their website definitely assumes a different numbering system on the changer holes, so keep that in mind if you use that chart as the starting point - or if you try to reference both Carter and Williams charts to get an 'average' or something. The Williams scheme starts at the hole that's closest to the deck of the guitar (i,e., in the raise finger) and calls that "1," and the numbers go up from there as you move away from the deck and toward the lower fingers. On the 700 series, that would be Holes 1 through 6.
The bellcranks use a similar thing, with 1 being the slot on the crank closest to the deck of the guitar.
William's chart on their website definitely assumes a different numbering system on the changer holes, so keep that in mind if you use that chart as the starting point - or if you try to reference both Carter and Williams charts to get an 'average' or something. The Williams scheme starts at the hole that's closest to the deck of the guitar (i,e., in the raise finger) and calls that "1," and the numbers go up from there as you move away from the deck and toward the lower fingers. On the 700 series, that would be Holes 1 through 6.
The bellcranks use a similar thing, with 1 being the slot on the crank closest to the deck of the guitar.